2009-11-16 MinutesJOINT
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
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SCHOOL BOARD
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November 16, 2009
Supervisors in Attendance: Staff in Attendance:
Mr. Arthur S. Warren, Chairman Ms. Janice Blakley,
Mr. Daniel A. Gecker, Vice Chrm. Clerk to the Board
Ms. Dorothy Jaeckle Mr. Allan Carmody, Dir.,
Mr. James "Jim" Holland Budget and Management
Ms. Marleen K. Durfee Ms. Marilyn Cole, Asst.
County Administrator
Mr. James J. L. Stegmaier Ms. Mary Ann Curtin,
County Administrator Dir., Intergovtl.
Relations
School Board Members in Colonel Thierry Dupuis,
Attendance: Police Department
Dr. Lyle Evans, Asst.
Mr. Marshall Trammell, Jr. Supt. for Human
Chairman Resources and Facilities
Mr. David Wyman, Vice Chrm. Dr. Dale Kalkofen, Asst.
Ms. Dianne Pettitt Supt for Instruction
Mr. Omar Rajah Ms. Mary Lou Lyle, Acting
Ms. Patricia Carpenter Deputy County Admin.,
Management Services
Legislators in Attendance: Mr. Steven L. Micas,
County Attorney
Senator Stephen H. Martin Mr. David Myers, Asst.
Senator John Watkins Superintendent of
Delegate Roslyn R. Dance Schools, Business
Delegate G. Manoli Loupassi and Finance
Delegate Delores L. McQuinn Dr. Marcus Newsome, Supt.
Delegate Samuel A. Nixon, Jr. of Schools
Delegate R. Lee Ware, Jr. Chief Edward Senter,
Fire Department
Mr. Shawn Smith, School's
Assistant Director of
Community Relations
Ms. Sarah Snead, Acting
Deputy County Admin.,
Human Services
Dr. Sharon Thomas,
Executive Asst. to
Superintendent
Ms. Carol Timpano,
Clerk to the School
Board
Mr. M. D. Stith, Jr.,
.Deputy County Admin.,
Community Development
WELCOME AND CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Warren called the joint meeting to order at 4:51 p.m.
He expressed appreciation to the members of the delegation.
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Mr. Trammell called the School Board meeting to order.
Mr. Warren expressed appreciation to the members of the
delegation for attending the meeting. He stated it is very
important to have good relations heading into the next
General Assembly session due to the difficult economic
times we are facing. He stated the Board of Supervisors
and School Board are taking advantage of the downturn in
growth by partnering together with the business community
to develop a new Comprehensive Plan. He further stated
Chesterfield still enjoys a wonderful quality of life . He
stated it is important to work together for the good of the
citizens of Chesterfield.
Mr. Trammell stated the School Board appreciates the
opportunity to share information with the members of the
delegation and expressed appreciation to the delegation for
their support in the past.
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS
Mr. Stegmaier welcomed the members of the General Assembly
and expressed appreciation for their attendance at the
joint meeting of the Board of Supervisors and School Board.
He stated the county looks forward to working together to
get through the next session of the General Assembly on
behalf of the citizens. He further stated the county
understands the coming year is going to be more difficult
than the past year. He stated the county embarked on a
series of conversations with the community about the fiscal
situation that the county is facing. He further stated the
community meetings allow the citizens to offer their ideas
and input to help guide the decision making process. He
stated at this time the county is not trying to solve the
problem but simply get the message out to the public. He
further stated staff is closely monitoring what is
happening at the state level. He stated the situation for
the members of the General Assembly is going to be
challenging. He further stated government services the
citizens have come to know are likely to change in the
coming year.
SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT'S COMMENTS
Dr. Newsome expressed appreciation to the Board of
Supervisors as well as the School Board for hosting the
event. He further expressed appreciation to the delegation
members for their service to the citizens of Chesterfield
County and the Commonwealth of Virginia. He stated he is
proud to call Chesterfield County home due to the quality
of life it provides for his family. He further stated the
school system was recognized by the Department of Education
under the Bush and Obama Administrations as a model for
high performing school districts across the nation. He
stated the school system is operating with $32 million less
than last year. He further stated next year the school
system anticipates to operate with $30 million less and
perhaps $15 million in 2012 and there will be more students
each year. He expressed appreciation to the members of the
delegation for advocating for public education. He stated
the school system's top legislative priorities are the full
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funding of the Standards of Quality and a cap on support
positions. He further stated the school system is doing
everything possible to make sure every dollar spent is
spent in an efficient manner by requesting the Department
of Education to do an efficiency review of the school
system. He stated the auditors completed their onsite
review and stated Chesterfield County public schools is the
most efficiently run school division in terms of cost per
pupil. He further stated as soon as the recommendations
are received the school system will review them carefully.
He stated the school system has staff members ready to
assist members of the delegation with any requests for
information .
ECONOMIC OUTLOOK. AND THE 2011 BUDGET
Mr. Carmody stated staff has had five budget community
meetings throughout the county to inform the citizens of
the challenges for the upcoming year. He further stated
the information relayed to the citizens in the meetings has
been well received. He reviewed the FY2010 budget as
adopted. He stated the county is able to provide services
to our community at a lower cost than other large
localities. He further stated in FY2010 the county was
delivering services on par with FY1997. He stated it is
easy to deliver services at a low cost, but the county is
able to deliver services with high value. He further
stated outside independent agencies give excellent ratings
for Chesterfield County's quality of life. He stated the
school system is the lowest cost provider of public
education in the Commonwealth among large localities. He
reviewed the process taken by the Board of Supervisors and
County when adopting the FY2010 budget. He stated if the
school system had not received the State Fiscal
Stabilization funds from the Federal Stimulus Act, the
fiscal picture of the school system would have been
dramatically different. He provided a detailed review of
how focused the reductions were made in the FY2010 budget.
He stated some relief to the taxpayers was provided due to
declining property values. He reviewed how other large
Virginia jurisdictions handled the challenges faced with
their budgets. He stated Chesterfield took the deepest
reduction of any other jurisdiction in Virginia without
adjusting the real estate tax rate. He provided a
breakdown of the county's general fund and stated almost 60
percent of the total revenue in the general fund is
affected by consumer's spending habits. He further stated
Chesterfield County has lost over 9,000 private sector jobs
since 2007. He stated the decline in real estate values
will continue as long as there is an abundance of homes on
the market. He further stated the impact of the economic
conditions is seen not only on residential properties but
also the commercial properties. He stated the Governor's
proposed reductions to the current year's budget were
comprised of a majority of one time options which
represented approximately 60 percent of the solution for
the $1.5 billion projected revenue shortfall. He provided
a comparison of the gross domestic product levels and
unemployment levels. He stated positive growth of gross
domestic product will probably occur for at least 18
months. He reviewed the pressures on the expenditure side
of the budget on both the school system and the general
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fund and stated there are needs for major equipment
replacements. He further stated the reduction or
elimination of Federal Stimulus funding by 2012 will put
additional pressure on the local government and school
system. He stated the estimated budget shortfall for
FY2011 is expected to be $55 to $60 million. He provided a
detailed list of services which can be provided to the
citizens for $55 to $60 million. He reviewed the process
being used at ,the community meetings. He stated staff will
compile all of the information received at the meetings and
report back to the elected officials. He further stated it
is likely that programs and services will have to be
changed.
Mr. Warren expressed appreciation to Mr. Carmody for the
presentation. He invited members of the delegation to
attend the community meeting in the Clover Hill District.
He stated the county still enjoys a AAA bond rating from
all three bonding agencies.
PROPOSED 2010 LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM - COUNTY
Ms. Curtin briefly reviewed the county's draft 2010
legislative program. She stated the guiding principle for
the 2010 legislative program is to maintain the county's
AAA bond rating, the county's financial independence and
fiscal integrity. She further stated staff will be
contacting individual members of the delegation for
assistance with a couple of transportation items. She
stated the county will be asking JLARC to do a study about
incentives for localities to work together in terms of
constructing facilities and providing operating services.
She further stated the county is looking at a charter
change which would allow the County Administrator access to
tax information. She stated the county will be looking for
an amendment to the Public Procurement Act relating to how
K9 dogs are handled when their trainers leave the police
force. She further stated the Board is scheduled to adopt
the program at their meeting on November 18, 2009 and
copies of drafts of both county and school legislative
programs were available for legislators.
PROPOSED 2010 LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM - SCHOOLS
Mr. Smith stated the School Board's legislative program is
still in draft form and will be adopted in December. He
noted that the school system's top legislative priority
will be full funding of the Standards of Quality. He
stated the school system will review any new statutory
regulatory requirements to ensure the funding is there for
the school system. He further stated the .school system is
going to look for maximum discretion for the division to
make their own budget decisions where reductions are
possible. He stated the school system will support
flexibility within the mandates. He then reviewed the
school system's legislative program. He requested the
opportunity for the Board of Education to review any
changes to graduation requirements to determine if there
are funding or staffing implications for the changes. He
stated the school system strongly supports the state fully
funding the testing which is required. He further stated
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since 2005, local school divisions have been required to
full fund testing for both state accreditation standards as
well as No Child Left Behind. He stated the county is
fortunate to have one of the best career and technical
education programs not only in Virginia but across the
country. He further stated the program has grown year after
year and the school system is now turning away students.
He stated the School Board is looking. at the current Clover
Hill High School as a facility to be used for the career
and technical education program. He further stated as the
legislature looks at career and technical education, the
school system encourages that there are no more mandates
which may tie up the school system from a facility and
staff standpoint. He requested that staff, the
Superintendent, and the School Board be utilized as a
resource by the legislators.
COMMENTS ON 2010 SESSION
Senator Watkins expressed concerns relative to the
terminology utilized for the proposed charter change.
In response to Senator Watkins' question, Mr. Stegmaier
stated in most urban and large suburban jurisdictions there
is a finance director who has access to all of the tax
information to utilize when making revenue projections. He
further stated Chesterfield County operates under the
traditional form of government with constitutional officers
in the finance area, noting that the budget staff does not
have access to the kind of information that a finance
director would have access to. He stated the county is
trying to make it possible for budget staff to have access
to the same information as in other jurisdictions. He
further stated although the county has an outstanding
Commissioner of Revenue, the Code of Virginia does not
permit that information to be shared with budget staff.
Senator Watkins stated the language being used needs to be
a whole lot more specific. He further stated finance
directors are not given full liberty in terms of who they
disclose individual tax revenues to. He stated the
legislation needs to be more specific as to what
Chesterfield is requesting with the charter change.
Mr. Stegmaier stated the county is asking for the same
ability to view the information which would be allowed in
other localities.
In response to Mr. Warren's question, Senator Watkins
stated he would work with the county administration on
recrafting the language of the charter change item.
After further discussion relative to the proposed charter
amendment, Senator Martin stated he would be happy to work
with Senator Watkins on the language of the charter change.
He further stated he is a senior member of the Senate Local
Governments Committee and would be happy to patron the
proposed legislation.
Mr. Warren requested Ms. Curtin to work with the delegation
on the wording of the charter change.
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Delegate Ware stated when the Governor came before the
money committees in August, he said that federal tax
revenue has been down year after year. He further stated
he contacted the state's appropriations staff prior to this
meeting and projections were underperforming at the state
level by $250 to $300 million since August. He stated it
is going to be a difficult year for ,the state also. He
further stated it is important for localities to have
flexibility and discretion in decision making, particularly
on school matters.
Mr. Warren stated the county has a School Board Liaison
Committee which can work on getting a coalition of people
together.
Senator Watkins stated there have been discussions which
recommend the abandonment of sovereign immunity at the
local government level.
In response to Senator Watkins, Mr. Micas stated if
Chesterfield County was to lose immunity it would have a
multiplying effect on being able to provide low-cost
quality services.
Senator Watkins advised Chesterfield County to have people
working on sovereign immunity because legislation will be
introduced this year in the General Assembly. He inquired
about the impact of the ordinances adopted by the county in
regard to the fines collected which go to the general fund
instead of being sent to the State Literary Fund. He
stated the Literary Loan Fund has not grown over the past
ten years, and it is one of the sources which has been used
to offset downturns in the budget for education.
Mr. Warren reviewed the police statistics from October 31
to November 6.
Delegate Nixon advised Chesterfield County to pay even
closer attention to what is happening with the state
budget. He stated state revenues are declining at a rate
much faster and deeper than anyone anticipated. He further
stated the fix for the budget from the Governor in
September caused a structural imbalance in the budget. He
stated the 2010 and 2011 budgets were built in large part
using stimulus money, and the stimulus money will have to
be removed from the equation at the end of the 2011 budget.
He further stated the state is facing pressures in regard
to rebenchmarking and Medicaid reimbursements and what may
or may not happen around healthcare reform.
Delegate Dance stated she will be at the House
Appropriations retreat on November 17, which is going to
last for two days. She further stated a lot of time will
be spent learning where the state is financially and what
the best projections are going to look like. She stated
there will be some harsher cuts than were expected because
the revenue is not trending upward. She further stated due
to the state of the budget, the retreat is being held at
the Capital this year. She requested the county have a
representative present at the retreat.
Mr. Warren stated the county will have a representative
from Chesterfield at the retreat.
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Ms. Durfee expressed appreciation to the members of the
delegation for attending the joint meeting: She inquired
from the members of the delegation as to what their
interests are as they move forward with the General
Assembly.
Delegate Dance stated all of the members of the delegation
have pretty much the same priorities such as
transportation, education, public safety and healthcare.
She further stated the Governor-Elect is going to address
transportation in his first year in office. She stated
improving the economy is another priority because the state
is working on stimulus money which will be gone at the end
of 2011.
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Mr. Warren stated when a business prospers it translates
into jobs, which is a big item on the Governor-Elect's and
Lieutenant Governor-Elect's agenda.
Mr. Trammell expressed appreciation to Delegate Ware for
his comments on allowing leeway on what mandates may be
passed. He stated every candidate for attorney general
over the past 39 years has campaigned on the issue of fewer
regulations. He further stated the legislators need to
review what it takes to help the school divisions around
the Commonwealth get through the budget crisis. He stated
the School Board along with Dr. Newsome will put together a
list of items which will help the school division survive
the budget crisis.
Mr. Warren requested Mr. Trammell to compile the list and
forward it to all of the delegation.
Ms. Durfee again inquired whether there were any other
legislative concerns that the delegation would like to
share at this point. She referenced the impact fee bill
and asked if anyone wanted to comment on that at this time,
or if there was any other legislation that they felt might
be of importance at the local level.
Senator Martin stated he doesn't think there is anything
unknown with regard to where the individual legislators
stand on those issues, noting that the things that have
been discussed here including the budget are impactful on,
and should be of interest to, the local government. He
stated some of the _actions taken at the transportation
level and others may need some corrective action in order
to make sure the state can recover from this recession. He
further stated the reason for the decline in revenues is
the slow housing starts and automobile sales.
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Mr. Holland expressed appreciation to the members of the
delegation for attending the meeting. He stated now would
be an opportune time to review the state income tax system
to see what can be enhanced going forward in a new economy.
Mr. Wyman expressed appreciation to the Board of
Supervisors for pushing the agenda through this budget
cycle. He stated during the last several months, the
county and school system have started early in the process
of assessing the budget. He further stated the Budget and
Audit Committee is looking at the long term impact of the
changes on the county and school system. He stated over
the last 18 months, the Budget and Audit Committee has been
reviewing efficiency audits and energy savings and are now
into the classroom. He further stated the impact that will
be seen is in the classroom and will affect the students.
He stated education is the revenue engine for the state.
He further stated the county has been fortunate over the
last 10 years in terms of investments that have been made
in education. He stated the county has made substantial
progress fixing some fundamental issues relating to
achievement gaps. He further stated the real question is
where the county will be 10 years from now with the
decisions that will be made in the next six months.
In response to Ms. Durfee's question, Delegate Dance stated
the stimulus money for 2011 has been used for budget
shortfalls for 2010.
Senator Martin stated the stimulus money has been spent,
and things are looking worse than expected at the state
level. He further stated the General Assembly starts with
a structural budget imbalance plus inflation and the $3.5
billion shortfall.
Delegate Dance provided the details of the Appropriations
meeting.
Mr. Warren expressed appreciation to the members of the
delegation for attending the meeting. He noted that at a
recent Chesterfield Chamber meeting where about 200
business people attended, it was stated the county and the
business community are working together better than in
years past. He stated in the five years prior to the dip
in the economy, over 400 new businesses located in
Chesterfield creating 7,500 new jobs and invested $1.5
billion in the economy. He further stated there are going
to be tremendous opportunities for Chesterfield County to
return to this level of activity as this recession ends.
On motion of Mr. Gecker, seconded by Mr. Holland, the Board
adjourned at 6:05 p.m. to November 18, 2009 at 3:00 p.m. in
the Public Meeting Room.
Ayes: Warren, Gecker, Jaeckle, Holland, and Durfee.
Nayes: None.
On motion of Ms. Pettitt, seconded by Mr. Wyman, the School
Board adjourned at 6:05 p.m.
Ayes: Trammell, Wyman, Pettitt, Rajah, and Carpenter.
Nayes: None.
J mes J. Stegma'er thur S. Warren
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