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BOARD OF SUPERVISORS JOINT MEETING
WITH SCHOOL BOARD AND CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION GOALS AND
ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
April 20, 2016
Supervisors in Attendance:
Ms. Dorothy A. Jaeckle, Vice Chrm
Mr. Christopher M. Winslow
Mr. James Holland
School Board Members in
Attendance:
Ms. Dianne H. Smith, Chairman
Ms. Carrie E. Coyner, Vice Chrm.
Mr. John M. Erbach
Mr. Rob W. Thompson
Dr. Javaid E. Siddiqi
Committee Members in
Attendance:
Mr. James Holland
(for Mr. Steve Elswick)
Ms. Dorothy Jaeckle
(for Ms. Leslie Haley)
Ms. Carrie Coyner
Mr. Rob Thompson
Mr. Gib Sloan
(for Dr. Edgar Wallin)
Mr. Allan Carmody
Mr. John Hilliard
Mr. Randy Holmes
Ms. Barbara Mait
Mr. Andy Scherzer
Mr. Chris Sorensen
Ms. Nita Mensia-Joseph
A. CALL TO ORDER - BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SCHOOL BOARD
AND COMMITTEE
Ms. Coyner called the meeting to order at noon, on behalf of
the Capital Construction Goals and Accountability Committee.
Ms. Jaeckle called the meeting to order, on behalf of the
Chesterfield County Board of Supervisors.
Ms. Smith called the meeting to order, on behalf of the
School Board.
B. OPENING REMARKS
Ms. Coyner stated some members are absent due to death in the
family and being out of town on business. She thanked Ms.
Jaeckle and Mr. Sloan for filling in for Mr. Elswick and Dr.
Wallin. She noted that Mr. Holmes will be arriving late.
Ms. Jaeckle noted that the reason for the joint meeting is
that the location of proposed schools impacts members of both
the School Board and the Board of Supervisors.
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C. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
On motion of Mr. Thompson, seconded by Ms. Mait, the agenda
was approved by the Capital Construction Goals and
Accountability Committee.
Ayes: Holland, Jaeckle, Coyner, Thompson, Sloan,
Carmody, Hilliard, Mait, Scherzer, Sorensen and
Joseph.
Nays: None.
Absent: Holmes.
On motion of Mr. Winslow, seconded by Mr. Holland, the agenda
was approved on behalf of the Board of Supervisors.
Ayes: Jaeckle, Winslow and Holland.
Nays: None.
Absent: Elswick and Haley.
On motion of Mr. Thompson, seconded by Mr. Erbach, the agenda
was approved on behalf of the School Board.
Ayes: Smith, Coyner, Erbach, Thompson and Siddiqi.
Nays: None.
D. APPROVAL OF COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES/ACTION ITEMS
On motion of Mr. Hilliard, seconded by Mr. Thompson, the
minutes and action items of February 17, 2016 and March 16,
2016 were approved by the committee.
Ayes: Jaeckle, Coyner, Thompson, Sloan, Carmody,
Hilliard, Mait, Scherzer, Sorensen and Joseph.
Nays: None.
Absent: Holmes.
Abstain: Holland.
E. BUSINESS ITEMS
1. PROVIDENCE MIDDLE SCHOOL - PROJECT BIDS
(Note: Mr. Holmes arrived during the discussion related to
Providence Middle School.)
Ms. Joseph stated the bid for Providence Middle School
renovation was canceled, and a community meeting will be held
at the school on Thursday, April 28 to discuss proposed
changes. She further stated the project should go back out
to bid by the last week of May and, hopefully, the contract
would be awarded between June 28-30, with the School Board
holding a special called meeting in July to approve the
contract. She stated the schedule would then result in all
of the work completed by the end of May 2018, with the site
work completed in the summer. She further stated bids were
canceled because the lowest bidder was 35 percent over
budget, and the reasons provided by the architect were
complexity of the phasing; the convenience and ease of
getting subcontractor bids by the general contractors; and
the scope of work. She provided details of cost downs moving
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forward, including reducing the phasing from 10 to 5,
providing target dates for phasing completion; and improving
accessibility of drawings to subcontractors. She stated cost
downs that staff has recommended to the School Board include
removing the kitchen renovation; reducing courtyard
renovation to landscape only; standardizing all ceilings;
removing loose furniture from the bid; and obtaining a
solution for exterior metal panels. She stated the architect
and engineer (A&E) total estimated impact of the cost downs
is approximately $4 million, which is still shy of the
required reduction to be within budget. She further stated
it is anticipated that bids may still come in $2-$2.5 million
over budget. She noted that if the Providence budget were
adjusted for inflation from 2012, it should have increased by
$2.9 million; therefore, the anticipated bids, with
recommended cost downs, would be closer to budget. She stated
the question that is being posed is how to make up the
difference in the event the bids remain higher than budget
with the cost downs.
Mr. Winslow expressed concerns relative to the low number of
bids and inquired whether it was common for the bids to be
over budget. He requested that staff provide data regarding
the number of bids received, the quotes and whether or not
they were over budget, for the last ten school construction
projects. He inquired about the current process that Schools
uses for verifying the accuracy of construction estimates.
Ms. Joseph stated the process for the estimates comes
directly from the architectural firm. She further stated
staff requests that A&E's provide the cost estimates, and in
some cases the A&E's will outsource that and get an
estimating firm to provide the estimates.
Mr. John Brooks stated the construction department asks the
architect to provide cost estimates, and when they are
received, staff reviews them to see if they are in line with
data from other current relative construction activity. He
further stated it is kind of a generalization, depending upon
the scope, location and timing of the projects being
compared.
Discussion ensued relative to the impact of inflation on cost
estimates and rebalancing of the CIP to account for an
inflation factor on the projects.
Mr. Winslow referenced the Moseley Architects' budget draft
of April 2, 2015, which states, "The costs are based on the
anticipated bid date of October 2015. Appropriate inflation
factors will need to be considered to adjust for the actual
bid date if different from October 2015." He inquired whether
the numbers should have been readjusted since the project did
not move forward in October 2015.
Ms. Joseph stated the architect provided cost estimates this
year, which she is sure took that into consideration.
Mr. Stephen Halsey with Moseley Architects stated the last
estimate for the Providence project was provided to staff in
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August 2015. He further stated there was no significant
movement in the market to suggest that the estimate needed to
change prior to going out to bid.
In response to Mr. Winslow's question, Mr. Halsey stated
there were no indicators at the time the bid went out that
the project estimate would increase.
Mr. Scherzer stated inflation had been factored in up to that
point.
Mr. Winslow stated he does not have the 2012 estimate, but is
trying to get an understanding of the process. He stressed
the importance of accuracy in the estimates to make certain
that this does not happen again.
Ms. Coyner stated from a School Board perspective, hiring a
chief operations officer and new hires in construction have
brought us a long way in terms of organization. She further
stated we are still dealing with some things from the past as
we go through the projects. She stated, regarding the
kitchen renovation, the question was raised as to whether
this was needed. She further stated food services has
replaced a lot of items on their own and indicated that they
did not ask for the renovation. She stated the School Board
discussed how to handle projects that come in over budget,
and determined that they would not cut items from a project
without a recommendation from the Capital Construction
Committee regarding funding for those items. She noted that
the decision was not to make cuts with the Providence
project, but to put it back out to bid cleaned up and then
bring it back to both the School Board and the committee.
Dr. Siddiqi stated this project was put before the community,
an expectation has been set, and we need to go back before
the community. He expressed concerns that the kitchen
renovation was placed in the project budget without
determining from food services that it was needed. He
stressed that the community did nothing wrong and they
deserve a nice facility.
Ms. Jaeckle stated revitalization strategy was a major part
of the Comprehensive Plan, and this included bringing public
facilities in older areas up to the level of the new areas
with input from the community regarding their desires for the
facilities. She expressed concerns about removing certain
things from the project. She referenced the renovation of
Thomas Dale High School, which is a gem in the community, and
helped saved the Chester area from going downhill. She
stated the Providence community has provided their
expectations, and she hopes this disparity in estimates has
been corrected because we may be able to make up for one
mistake, but we cannot absorb 35 percent overages on all of
the projects.
Mr. Holland stated 35 percent overage is not acceptable. He
inquired whether the review of projects to bring them up to
date for inflation was completed in time to update the CIP
that the Board of Supervisors just approved.
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Mr. Sorensen stated projects were moved further out after the
meals tax failed, and staff readjusted the project estimates
when they were moved.
Mr. Holland stated staff should have adjusted for inflation
in the CIP timely enough that there would not be overruns.
In response to Mr. Holland's question, Ms. Joseph stated the
total project cost in the budget for Providence Middle School
was $25.9 million. She further stated construction cost in
the budget was $20.7 million, which was taken from the bid
bond book. She stated owner costs were $5.1 million, and
staff is still working to achieve the budget.
In response to Ms. Jaeckle's question, Ms. Joseph stated it
is estimated that reducing the phasing, as well as improved
accessibility of the drawings and looking at the substantial
completion dates now becoming target phase dates, would
result in approximately a $2 million savings.
Ms. Jaeckle stated those changes would not affect the quality
of the building in the long run, but she would not remove the
other suggested items without first discussing it with the
community.
Dr. Siddiqi stated this information is going to be presented
to the community to see how they feel about it, and then the
School Board will come back and go through the same process
the committee is going through.
Discussion ensued relative to the delay in the completion
date of the Providence project.
Ms. Coyner stated it is important that the committee discuss
the recommended cost downs further at its May meeting.
She further stated one of the decisions that needs to be made
is whether or not to standardize the ceilings for all of the
projects.
Mr. Thompson stated staff has to rely on the estimates
provided by the architects, and he is disappointed in the bid
results based on the architect's estimates.
Mr. Erbach inquired whether the architect accounted for
phase-in.
Mr. Halsey stated it is not completely accurate that food
service was not consulted. He further stated every project
begins with the construction staff, looking at the available
dollars, and beginning to align a scope. He stated, although
a kitchen renovation was not requested, there were some needs
that the project tried to address, including increased
student population, which puts a burden on cooking time,
serving lines and storage. He further stated there are two
serving lines at Providence currently, and a third
perpendicular serving line that is not an efficient way to
serve students. He stated once it was confirmed that a third
serving line was necessary, to get that third serving line in
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series, the existing walk-in coolers had to be moved. He
further stated at some point you need to stop and compare the
available dollars in the construction budget to accomplish
issues such as this. He stated Moseley is still convinced
that there is enough funding to renovate the kitchen. He
further stated his firm has done 40 percent of the schools in
the Commonwealth of Virginia in the last 15 years; they know
about costs and compare them with VDOE numbers. He stated in
the past 15 months, 41 renovation projects have been
completed in Virginia, with $128 million in construction of
960,000 square feet, for an average square foot cost of
$133.90. He noted the budget for this project was
significantly higher than that, so they anticipated the cost
estimates were good. He stated there were some areas of wood
ceilings proposed for areas such as major public corridors
and the auditorium entry, which is very appropriate for the
scope of the project and has been done in other schools in
the county and in surrounding areas. He stated Mr. Brooks
asked the architects in the fall if they saw any movement in
the numbers and at that time, they did not see any, noting
that they look at comparable schools around the state for
comparable scope. He provided details of other projects
around the state that were used for comparison. He stated
there is a gigantic disconnect right now in the market,
specific to Chesterfield County, and Moseley is just as
surprised as anyone that the project is having to be re -bid.
Mr. Hilliard stated it is shocking to him given the details
provided by Mr. Halsey that the project was 35 percent over
budget.
Mr. Holland stated he served on the Virginia Public School
Authority for eight years and is familiar with the numbers
provided by the architect, but he never saw anything come in
35 percent over budget during his service from 2001-2008,
prior to the recession of 2009.
Ms. Coyner stated we need to bring this issue to a closure so
that the committee can get through its agenda. She further
stated action items that she heard include setting the
community meeting for April 28th at Providence Middle School
and notification being sent to everyone, as well as feedback
out of that meeting being presented next month to the
committee.
Mr. Winslow expressed concerns that there may be a variable
we are missing that is not being captured, and we need to be
open to that possibility as we examine the process.
Discussion ensued relative to making changes to the RFP that
would increase the number of bidders.
Mr. Holmes suggested that, since the project has to be re-
bid, the architects should contact the two contractors who
bid on the project and determine the factors that made the
bids come in so high.
In response to Ms. Coyner's request, Mr. Holmes and Mr.
Scherzer volunteered as committee members to follow-up with
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Ms. Joseph regarding rebidding the Providence Middle School
project.
2. PROJECT UPDATES
Ms. Joseph provided an update on the Manchester Middle School
renovation project. She stated there may be a change in the
schedule as staff looks at standardization with the project.
She further stated there is a concern with the bids coming in
higher than expected because the original estimate was $11
million over, and $10 million of that was reduced as a result
of correcting the estimates from the company that did the
estimation work. She confirmed that the $10 million in
reductions were not scope -related, but were a result of
errors in some of the items provided by the estimator, the
architect was able to clean up those mistakes in the
estimation, and Schools was able to shave the additional $1
million in reductions. She noted that the architect has
confirmed that we are on budget for the Manchester Middle
project.
Mr. Thompson stated it will be interesting to see the numbers
when the bids come back in since the Providence and
Manchester projects have different architects.
Mr. Holmes expressed concerns relative to the necessity of
contingency in the budgets for the projects.
Ms. Joseph stated there will be closed session discussions
related to site selection and status of Beulah Elementary,
Enon Elementary, Matoaca Elementary and the new Midlothian
Elementary projects. She stated the RFP went out on April 19
for the four school prototypes and will close on May 18, with
award targeted for June or July. She further stated
proposals for the construction management firm to manage the
four new schools are due on April 29, and staff hopes to
award this in June. She provided details of target dates
identified in the RFP.
In response to Mr. Holmes' question, Ms. Joseph stated staff
will provide options to the committee at its August meeting
relative to bidding of the four new schools either
individually or as a group.
In response to Mr. Scherzer's question, Ms. Joseph stated 18
months is the typical timeframe for construction of a new
elementary school, noting that that does not include the
design period.
Ms. Joseph then reviewed the timeline for the prototype RPF,
noting that we are on schedule.
Discussion ensued relative to the prototypes that
architectural firms may already have completed and can
provide with the RFP.
Dr. Newsome clarified that 18 months is a timeframe for new
construction only and that if there is a renovation project
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on the same site with phasing because of the students, it
would take longer.
Ms. Joseph stated, depending upon the complexity of the
renovations, it would take from 2 to 2-1/2 years to complete
a renovation project at a current location with phasing of
students.
Mr. Holland inquired whether the School Board had discussed
redistricting and efficient use of seats for Beulah
Elementary.
Ms. Coyner stated redistricting will be discussed again at a
later date, but was put on hold as the School Board searched
for a new Superintendent.
Ms. Joseph provided a financial update for the Monacan High
School project. She stated a 2014 A&E change order was
missed that was identified as a result of collaborative
effort with Internal Audit, resulting in total change orders
of approximately $199,000, which is a 23 percent total change
order amount. She further stated the Monacan construction
schedule is still on target; however, a notice of delay has
been received from the contractor, citing excessive response
times from the A&E. She noted that staff is currently
working with the A&E to understand and clear up that issue
and will report on results and corrective actions at the
committee's May 18 meeting. She provided details of recent
findings from the Construction Management audit that is
currently in process. She stated since the Monacan project
was a repeat design of the Midlothian project, the school
division received a design service savings of approximately
$357,000, or 50 percent of the original design fee. She
further stated the $56,000 change order in 2014 covered
building construction differences and minor staff requests.
She stated the School Board requested annual construction
audits and tasked the Construction Department with
identifying and making additional process improvements. She
further stated during the 2015-16 school year, the School
Construction audit, which is in process, identified that
there were not only just the BCWH change order, but there was
also a Moseley change order, both of which exceeded the
threshold for staff approval and Board approval was not
obtained. She noted that all other change orders for Monacan
have no exceptions noted, and Providence and Monacan were
processed prior to the release of the November 21, 2014
audit. She provided details of process improvements as a
result of the audit; new processes for initial CIP purchase
orders, change order approvals and pay application approvals;
and improved internal segregation of duties.
In response to committee members' questions, Ms. Joseph
stated the new processes account for the necessity of
processing change orders in a timely manner to keep projects
on schedule, and also avoid, or at least minimize, the change
directive. She further stated project status reports are
being reviewed monthly through the pay application approval
process.
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F. PURCHASING PROCESSES
Mr. Mike Bacile provided details of purchasing processes. He
discussed the purpose and intent of the Virginia Public
Procurement Act (VPPA). He reviewed procurement methods and
provided details of the two main procurement methods that are
most closely associated with the design and construction of
schools - competitive negotiation and competitive sealed
bidding. He stated collaboration with Schools is a priority
for the Purchasing Department, and the department is
committed to advancing schools and the community.
Discussion ensued relative to alternative construction
procurement methods.
In response to Mr. Scherzer's question, Ms. Coyner stated
staff is working on PPEA guidelines.
G. NEXT MEETING AGENDA TOPICS
Ms. Coyner stated committee members have been provided a
draft agenda for the May 18 meeting. She requested that the
members let her know this week if they have any additional
topics for discussion at the May meeting so that she and Mr.
Elswick can address them at their follow-up meeting on April
26.
H. CLOSED SESSION
On motion of Mr. Winslow, seconded by Mr. Holland, the Board
of Supervisors entered into a Closed Session in accordance
with Section 2.2-3711(A) of the Code of Virginia, the
Virginia Freedom of Information Act, and specifically under
the following subsections 29 and 3: discussion of the award
of a public contract involving the expenditure of public
funds, including interviews of bidders or offerors, and
discussion of the terms or scope of such contract, where
discussion in an open session would adversely affect the
bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the public
body; and discussion or consideration of acquisition of real
property for a public purpose where discussion in an open
meeting would adversely affect the bargaining position or
negotiating strategy of the public body.
Ayes: Jaeckle, Winslow and Holland.
Nays: None.
Absent: Elswick and Haley.
On motion of Mr. Erbach, seconded by Mr. Thompson, the School
Board entered into a Closed Session in accordance with
Section 2.2-3711(A) of the Code of Virginia, the Virginia
Freedom of Information Act, and specifically under the
following subsections 29 and 3: discussion of the award of a
public contract involving the expenditure of public funds,
including interviews of bidders or offerors, and discussion
of the terms or scope of such contract, where discussion in
an open session would adversely affect the bargaining
position or negotiating strategy of the public body; and
discussion or consideration of acquisition of real property
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for a public purpose where discussion in an open meeting
would adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating
strategy of the public body.
Ayes: Smith, Coyner, Erbach, Thompson and Siddigi.
Nays: None.
On motion of Mr. Scherzer, seconded by Ms. Mait, the Capital
Construction Goals and Accountability Committee entered into
a Closed Session in accordance with Section 2.2-3711(A) of
the Code of Virginia, the Virginia Freedom of Information
Act, and specifically under the following subsections 29 and
3: discussion of the award of a public contract involving
the expenditure of public funds, including interviews of
bidders or offerors, and discussion of the terms or scope of
such contract, where discussion in an open session would
adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating
strategy of the public body; and discussion or consideration
of acquisition of real property for a public purpose where
discussion in an open meeting would adversely affect the
bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the public
body.
Ayes: Holland, Jaeckle, Coyner, Thompson, Sloan, Carmody,
Hilliard, Holmes, Mait, Scherzer, Sorensen and
Joseph.
Nays: None.
NOTES:
1) Ms. Coyner recused herself from participating in the
discussion regarding the Enon Elementary and Midlothian
Elementary school sites. S.
following the discussion c
the closed session prior
appointed Dr. Siddiqi to
behalf as a member of the
of the meeting.
ie entered the closed session
n those two topics. She left
to the end, and Ms. Smith
participate on Ms. Coyner's
committee for the remainder
2) Mr. Scherzer recused himself from participating in the
Midlothian Elementary school site discussion. He left
the closed session prior to the beginning of that
discussion and did not return.
3) Mr. Hilliard, Mr. Holmes, Ms. Mait and Mr. Sloan all
left the closed session prior to the end and did not
return.
Reconvening:
On motion of Mr. Winslow, seconded by Mr. Holland, the Board
of Supervisors reconvened into open session.
Ayes: Jaeckle, Winslow and Holland.
Nays: None.
Absent: Elswick and Haley.
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On motion of Mr. Erbach, seconded by Mr. Thompson, the School
Board reconvened into open session.
Ayes: Smith, Erbach, Thompson and Siddiqi.
Nays: None.
Absent: Coyner.
On motion of Mr. Thompson, seconded by Mr. Carmody, the
Capital Construction Goals and Accountability Committee
reconvened into open session.
Ayes: Holland, Jaeckle, Thompson, Carmody, Sorensen and
Joseph.
Nays: None.
Absent: Coyner, Sloan, Hilliard, Holmes, Mait and Scherzer.
On motion of Mr. Holland, seconded by Mr. Winslow, the Board
of Supervisors adopted the following resolution:
Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Board of Supervisors
hereby certifies that, to the best of each member's
knowledge, i) only public business matters lawfully exempted
from opening meeting requirements by Virginia law were
discussed in the closed meeting to which this certification
resolution applies, and 2) only such business matters as were
identified in the motion convening the closed meeting were
heard, discussed, or considered by the Board of Supervisors.
Ms.
Jaeckle:
Aye.
Mr.
Winslow:
Aye.
Mr.
Holland:
Aye.
On motion of Dr. Siddiqi, seconded by Mr. Thompson, the
School Board adopted the following resolution:
Now, therefore, be it resolved that the School Board hereby
certifies that, to the best of each member's knowledge, i)
only public business matters lawfully exempted from opening
meeting requirements by Virginia law were discussed in the
closed meeting to which this certification resolution
applies, and 2) only such business matters as were identified
in the motion convening the closed meeting were heard,
discussed, or considered by the School Board.
Ms. Smith:
Aye.
Dr. Siddiqi:
Aye.
Mr. Erbach:
Aye.
Mr. Thompson:
Aye.
(It is noted Ms. Coyner will certify her participation in the
closed session as a School Board member at the April 26
School Board meeting due to her departure prior to the end of
the closed session.)
On motion of Mr. Carmody, seconded by Mr. Thompson, the
Capital Construction Goals and Accountability Committee
adopted the following resolution:
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Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Capital Construction
Goals and Accountability Committee hereby certifies that, to
the best of each member's knowledge, i) only public business
matters lawfully exempted from opening meeting requirements
by Virginia law were discussed in the closed meeting to which
this certification resolution applies, and 2) only such
business matters as were identified in the motion convening
the closed meeting were heard, discussed, or considered by
the committee.
Mr.
Holland:
Aye.
Ms.
Jaeckle:
Aye.
Dr.
Siddiqi:
Aye.
Mr.
Thompson:
Aye.
Mr.
Carmody:
Aye.
Mr.
Sorensen:
Aye.
Ms.
Joseph:
Aye.
(It is noted Ms. Coyner, Mr. Sloan, Mr. Hilliard, Mr. Holmes,
Ms. Mait and Mr. Scherzer will each certify their
participation in the closed session as members (or alternate
member) of the Capital Construction Goals and Accountability
Committee at the May 18 committee meeting due to their
departure prior to the end of the closed session.)
I. ADJOURNMENT
On motion of Ms. Jaeckle, seconded by Mr. Winslow, the Board
of Supervisors adjourned at 2:55 p.m. until April 27, 2016,
at 3:00 p.m. for its next regularly scheduled meeting.
Ayes: Jaeckle, Winslow and Holland.
Nays: None.
Absent: Elswick and Haley.
On motion of Mr. Erbach, seconded by Mr. Thompson, the School
Board unanimously adjourned until April 26, 2016, at 6:30
p.m. for its next regularly scheduled meeting.
Ayes: Smith, Erbach, Thompson and Siddiqi.
Nays: None.
Absent: Coyner.
On motion of Ms. Jaeckle, seconded by Mr. Carmody, the
Capital Construction Goals and Accountability Committee
adjourned until May 18, 2016, at 12:30 p.m. for its next
regularly scheduled meeting at the County Administration
Building, Room 502.
Ayes: Holland, Jaeckle, Coyner, Thompson, Carmody,
Sorensen and Joseph.
Nays: None.
Absent: Coyner, Sloan, Hilliard, Holmes, Mait and Scherzer
imehe
s eg ier Ste n A. Elswick
ounty dministrator Chairman
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