2008-02-01 MinutesBOARD OF SUPERVISORS
MINUTES
February 1, 2008
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Supervisors in Attendance:
Mr. Arthur S. Warren, Chairman
Mr. Daniel A. Gecker, Vice Chrm
Ms. Dorothy Jaeckle
Mr. James "Jim" Holland
Ms. Marleen K. Durfee
Mr. James J. L. Stegmaier
County Administrator
Staff in Attendance:
Ms. Karen Aylward,
Development Manager,
Economic Development
Ms. Janice Blakley,
Clerk to the Board
Mr. Kevin Bruny, Dean,
Chesterfield University
Mr. Allan Carmody, Dir.,
Budget and Management
Ms. Marilyn Cole, Asst.
County Administrator
Ms. Mary Ann Curtin, Dir.,
Intergovtl. Relations
Mr. Jonathan Davis, Dir.,
Real Estate Assessments
Ms. Rebecca Dickson, Dep.
County Administrator,
Human Services
Mr. William Dupler, Dir.,
Building Inspection
Colonel Thierry Dupuis,
Police Department
Mr. Robert Eanes, Asst. to
the County Administrator
Mr. Donald Kappel, Dir.,
Public Affairs
Mr. Rob Key, Director,
General Services
Chief Paul Mauger,
Fire Department
Mr. Richard M. McElfish,
Dir., Env. Engineering
Mr. Jeffrey Mincks, Dep.
County Attorney
Mr. M. D. Stith, Jr.,
Deputy County Admin.,
Mr. Kirk Turner, Dir.,
Planning
Mr. Warren called the special meeting of the Board of
Supervisors to order at 3:07 p.m.
(It is noted that all five Board members signed a "Notice of
the Meeting" waiving any further notice.)
1. LEGISLATIVE UPDATE
Ms. Curtin first informed the Board that, with one week
remaining before crossover, a lot of legislation could die or
change considerably over the course of the next week. She
then provided an overview of issues related to proposed
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legislation that could. affect the county's financial
strength. She stated both the House and Senate budgets will
be released February 17th and noted that, when the Secretary
of Finance briefed the money committees regarding December
revenue, the numbers were not encouraging, and- the state
could be looking at a $1 billion shortfall. for the upcoming
biennial budget. She provided details of legislation related
to the Homestead Exemption and stated there is proposed
legislation in the House that would-roll back and eventually
repeal the machinery and tools tax. She noted that there are
a number of bills that would change the county's processes
for setting the local tax rate and adopting the budget. She
reviewed legislative issues related to transportation and
growth, including legislation ,that would change the timeframe
for reviewing commercial development; two regional
transportation authority bills; legislation relative to
representation on the Richmond Metropolitan Authority Board;
and a land use study resolution that has been broadened to
look at land use issues at the local level. She provided
details of Senator Watkins' proposed impact fee bill, which
was heard in the Senate Local Government Committee earlier
this week. She stated the bill eliminates all existing cash
proffer authority; curtails the Board's ability to accept any
offsite dedications; and limits any impact fee to be used
only for schools, roads and public safety facilities, taking
parks and libraries out of the equation. She further stated
the bill caps the impact fees for this area at $5,000 per
lot, and noted that the county's current cost calculations
show the per lot cost at a much higher level. She stated, in
its current form, the bill requires localities to go through
a very complicated process, with calculations that could lead
to conflict with developers. She further stated, if the
legislation is approved, the county would have less
flexibility to deal with the impacts of development and
infrastructure needs and might shift costs to county
taxpayers. She asked Mr. Carmody to come forward and address
fiscal implications of the legislation.
Mr. Carmody stated staff's calculated gross cost of capital
facilities is $31,692 and noted that $15,600 of this amount
is funded by cash proffers and the remainder is paid in local
taxes generated by households. He further stated the average
cash proffer being collected today is $7,700 per unit,
increasing the local revenue share.
Discussion ensued relative to the cash proffers currently
being collected-for projects that were approved several years
ago.
Mr. Carmody reviewed zoning trends for calendar years 2005
through 2007. He stated 5,446 units proffered improvements
less than the maximum, with nearly 30 percent of them
offering something other than the maximum cash proffer in the
way of reduced proffers, offsite improvements and land
dedications. He referenced the recently approved Branner
Station development, which proffered road improvements valued
at nearly $120 million. He stated the current cash proffer
allows that flexibility, but under the proposed legislation
the county would lose that flexibility and opportunity to
look at site-specific circumstances. He provided a 2007
revenue comparison for cash proffers versus impact fees under
the proposed legislation.
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Mr. Warren stated it is clear that the impact fee legislation
would not provide for the needs that exist at the county's
current cash proffer level.
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Mr. Holland concurred with Mr. Warren and expressed concerns
about the legislation going forward.
In response to Ms. Durfee's question, Mr. Carmody stated the
proposed legislation would eliminate cash proffer authority
for new zoning cases coming before the Board and provide for
impact fee authority for roads, schools and public safety
facilities only. He further stated the Board still has the
ability to consider imposing impact fees through 2007
enabling legislation, pending enactment of the proposed
legislation.
In response to Mr. Warren's question, Mr. Mincks stated the
proposed legislation would trump the county's current ability
to impose impact fees.
Mr. Warren inquired where Senate Bill 768 currently is in the
legislative process.
Ms. Curtin stated the bill was referred from Senate local
Government Committee to the Senate Finance Committee, and the
Finance Committee is scheduled to review the financial
portion of the proposed legislation on February 6tn
Mr. Mincks noted that the original bill included a grantors
tax revenue item attached to it that is not in the substitute
bill, which would be collected during the buying/selling
process.
Ms. Durfee inquired why the legislation was sent to the
Finance Committee since the grantor's tax item has been
removed.
Ms. Curtin stated it is
a successful attempt to
legislation when it is r
She further stated the
loss of revenue at
infrastructure.
unknown whether or not there will be
put the grantor's tax back into the
Beard in the Senate Finance Committee.
committee could also hear about the
the local level to deal with
Mr. Gecker stated he would like to hear from the public.
Mr. Warren inquired whether anyone in the audience would like
to comment on the proposed legislation.
No one came forward to address the issue.
Mr. Warren stated the proposed legislation would have a
tremendous impact on the way the county has been doing
business. He further stated the cash proffer system has
worked fairly well since the early 1990's, indicating that it
is a flexible system.
Discussion ensued relative to any offsite improvements that
would be allowed under the currently proposed legislation.
Mr. Gecker expressed concerns that a zoning case like Branner
Station or the Roseland proposal could not be approved
because there is no alternative mechanism sufficient to fund
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the improvements that would be necessitated by a development
of that size. He stated the county would be required to
promote small-scale developments versus larger scale
developments if the legislation were enacted, and would not
be able to target improvements where they are needed, but
instead have to wait for an uncertain funding source to
hopefully catch up on the improvement base. He further
stated the Branner Station case was attractive because of its
ability to phase the transportation improvements coincident
with residential development. He expressed concerns that the
county would always be playing catch up if the legislation
were adopted and inquired how the Board could responsibly
approve any significant residential development without
sufficient infrastructure to handle it and no clear funding
source for the infrastructure.
Mr. Holland stated he is particularly concerned not only with
the financial impact of the legislation, but also the lack of
flexibility that the Board would have.
Ms. Durfee expressed concerns that the legislation would not
provide for libraries, parks or the possibility of future
categories, such as open space. She inquired whether a
fiscal impact analysis has been performed on these other
categories.
Ms. Curtin stated she intends to present both of those issues
to the Finance Committee.
In response to Mr. Warren's questions, Ms. Curtin stated VACo
is opposing the legislation and would like to see it carried
over.
Discussion ensued relative to otherlocal; governments that
have expressed opposition to the legislation.
Mr. Gecker expressed concerns relative to the suggestion that
has been made indicating that Chesterfield would have been
significantly better off if this legislation had been in
place based upon the years when the cash proffer was lower
than it is today. He stated he would like to publicly
disabuse the notion that Chesterfield would be better off
with this legislation, indicating that he believes the
legislation would create a significant loss of revenue, as
well as make future development in the county much more
difficult.
Mr. Warren recognized Senator Watkins, who had recently
arrived at the meeting.
Senator Watkins came forward and stated the proposed
legislation is a result of continuing pressure from the
county and other jurisdictions to find another system that
would work better with regard to payment of infrastructure
needed across the Commonwealth. He stated the legislation is
not final until it has gone through the entire process and is
ultimately signed by the governor, indicating until that
point is reached, it is unknown what the law will or will not
do. He stated he brought legislation forward that would
change the county's system from cash proffers to impact fees,
as requested by the previous Board of Supervisors.
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Mr. Warren stated the previous Board saw impact fees as a way
to address the impact of developments approved prior to the
cash proffer system, but the proposed legislation is
completely different from what the previous Board had
requested.
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Senator Watkins stated the proposed legislation would impose
impact fees on developments that that county cannot collect
cash proffers from. He expressed concerns that he has
attempted to carry forward this legislation many times and
has finally found a way to gain the support of the
homebuilding industry, and now the jurisdictions do not
support it. He stated jurisdictions cannot continue using a
cash proffer system, which he considers "legalized extortion"
as a means of paying for infrastructure needs of growing
counties, noting that more adversely impacted will be the
jurisdictions who have yet to see the growth that
Chesterfield has seen. He expressed concerns relative to the
exorbitant cash proffers being collected by jurisdictions to
the north. He stated every time the county increases its
cash proffer, the assessed value of every home is impacted
and taxes on residents are increased. He further stated, in
his opinion, the legislation is headed in the right direction
and it is premature for the county to say that it is wrong.
He requested that the Board show him details and point out
areas that need to be changed.
Ms. Jaeckle thanked Senator Watkins for addressing the Board.
She expressed concerns relative to the bill's lack of
flexibility to address infrastructure needs. She stated
developers seemed to like providing offsite improvements that
would benefit their developments, rather than cash proffers.
She further stated the legislation would take the Board's
ability to accept offsite improvements away.
Senator Watkins stated the legislation would still allow for
onsite park and school sites, as well as offsite development
of transportation infrastructure directly associated with the
project that is not in the Six-Year Plan, covered under
either an impact fee or prior existing cash proffer.
Mr. Stegmaier stated the Board would not be able to accept
the type of offsite road improvements provided with the
Branner Station development under the legislation.
Senator Watkins stated the county could establish any number
of impact fee zones.
Mr. Gecker expressed a concern that, under Senator Watkins'
proposal, infrastructure would always be in arrears, instead
of in advance of development. He stated the county is
looking to develop larger tracts, rather than smaller, with
flexibility to provide for the infrastructure impact in
advance because of the size of the development.
Senator Watkins inquired whether the Board would rather have
cash proffers than impact fees.
Mr. Gecker stated he would prefer that the prohibition
against accepting offsite improvements be removed from the
legislation to allow infrastructure to be built in advance.
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After an additional inquiry from Senator Watkins relative to
credits against future impact fees, Mr. Gecker stated he was
not prepared to negotiate the legislation at this time, but
would be willing to sit down and discuss the parameters of
what would make the legislation acceptable.
Mr. Holland stated the lack of flexibility is a major concern
for him.
There. was discussion relative to the grantors' tax provision
that is not currently included in the legislation.
In response to Senator Watkins' statement about increases in
the value of homes due to cash proffers, Ms. Jaeckle stated
certain areas become popular places in which to live, and she
does not know whether removing the cash proffer would make
homes in these areas more affordable.
Ms. Durfee stated the bill is troubling to her because of its
fiscal impact and lack of flexibility. She inquired why the
impact of development on parks and libraries is not included.
She stated she is not confident that the Finance Committee
will provide the needed attention to the proposed
legislation. She further stated she understands Senator
Watkins' passion for his legislation, but requested that he
also consider the passion behind localities' needs for public
facilities and services.
Senator Watkins stated he and Ms. Durfee have spent a lot of
time together on this issue, and the single answer that they
always came back to was coming up with an impact fee that
worked. He further stated he is not trying to convince the
Board that everything is perfect with the bill, but it is a
step in the right direction. He stated it is a huge
undertaking to change something that has been embedded for 30
years. He further stated .the latest version of the
legislation includes an effective date for the ability to use
impact fees of July. 1, 2008, and does not phase out cash
proffers until another 12 months. He stated he: does not
recall a single time in his 27 years of representing
Chesterfield County, that anyone in the county has ever come
to him and asked him to submit a change that he has not done
so. He requested that, if the Board finds something that
needs to be changed and can show him empirically where that
change .benefits t_he citizens of Chesterfield, he will submit
it.
Mr. Warren stated the answer is to put off the bill until
next year to provide time for_ discussions regarding the
issues surrounding the legislation. He thanked Senator
Watkins for coming today to discuss the bill.
Senator Watkins stated the bill is still changing and will
continue to change as long as the General Assembly is still
in session, noting that nuances are being requested by
representatives from counties and cities, as well as
developers.
Mr. Warren recognized Dr. William Brown and Mr. Reuben
Waller, Planning Commissioners who were present at the
meeting.
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Dr. Brown came forward and shared the Board's concern, as a
Planning Commissioner, with the lack of flexibility in the
proposed legislation as it currently exists. He also
expressed concerns, as a citizen, regarding the financial
impact of the legislation, indicating that it would take
approximately a 50-cent increase in the real estate tax rate
to generate the same revenue with impact fees as cash
proffers are currently generating.
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Mr. Waller stated the proposed bill needs additional work,
indicating that if it were studied and refined during a study
period and brought back at the next General Assembly session,
perhaps a compromise could be reached between the existing
cash proffers and proposed impact fees.
Mr. Warren then recognized Mr. David Wyman, Dale District
School Board representative.
Mr. Wyman stated he understands that schools will not be paid
for solely with cash proffers, but it is important that there
be as many options and as much flexibility as possible for
the funding of schools. He expressed concerns about not
being informed of this legislation until the past 24 to 48
hours.
Mr. Warren inquired how the county would be able to finance
school and transportation needs if the impact fee legislation
were approved with a cap of $5,000.
Mr. Carmody stated 80 percent of the county's $15,600 cash
proffer goes to roads and schools. He further stated, in
looking at a $150 million gap between revenue generated by
cash proffers and impact fees under the current legislation,
there would be approximately a $120 million shortfall for
schools and roads.
Discussion ensued relative to increasing the real estate tax
rate to make up for the revenue shortfall.
Mr. Stegmaier stated Dr. Brown is correct that an additional
tax rate increase of 50 cents would be necessary if the
revenue shortfall had to be made up in one year. He further
stated the information that has been presented to the Board
relate to zoning cases approved in 2007, so fortunately the
revenue could be made up over a period of years as those lots
develop.
Ms. Durfee stated this is a complex bill and noted that cash
proffers have been in place for 30 years. She expressed
concerns that homebuilders have been opposing impact fees for
so many years, but now support this legislation. She
stressed the fact that very few of the 95 counties in
Virginia have increased their cash proffers to $47,000. She
stated Chesterfield is nowhere near the $47,000 figure and
has not increased proffers every year. She noted that the
county has historically approved a cash proffer maximum below
the calculated amount. She expressed concerns that the
fiscal impact on all the different impacted areas of the
county has not even been looked at, indicating that
libraries, parks and fire and EMS have been left out of the
proposed legislation. She stated the legislation would
hinder the Board from being able to reduce the real estate
tax rate. She encouraged the development community to
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understand the county's fiscal needs for its public
facilities.
Mr. Warren made a motion for the Board to oppose Senate Bill
768 and encourage its partners, including the Chesterfield
County School Board, Virginia Association of Counties and the
Coalition of High Growth Communities, as well as other
counties throughout the state, to oppose the passage of the
draft. legislation before the General Assembly.
Mr. Gecker stated it is not just the draft that .,the Board
should .oppose.. He expressed concerns that, if minor changes
were to be made to the legislation, the Board might have to
come back and address those changes. He stated, with a
systemic change such as this, it would be appropriate to pass
the legislation on to a study commission and determine
whether an alternative that works could be reached for next
year. He stated, given the last-minute introduction of this
legislation, with no contact with the county, he would like
the sense of the motion to oppose not only the passage in its
current form, but any significant change in the current
system this year and recommend that the General Assembly put
it off to study for a year and work with localities to see if
an acceptable system can be produced.
Mr. Warren accepted Mr. Gecker's amendment.
Mr. Holland seconded the amended motion.
Ms. Durfee stated she understands why Mr. Gecker is
requesting the amendment to the motion, indicating that the
legislation needs to be looked at in its entirety. She
further stated she supports sending a message to the
legislative delegation that the county needs comprehensive,
long-term solutions, not short fixes, to address
transportation and adequate public facilities. She stated
she would like to see the county's legislative delegation
work very hard on the issues that provide for the citizens'
health, public safety and welfare.
Mr. Gecker requested that the County Administrator inform the
county's legislative delegation specifically of the Board's
action, and also inform them of the Board's disagreement with
some of the underlying statistics that have been used by the
sponsor of the bill in order to suggest to people that
Chesterfield would benefit from this legislation. He further
requested that the county's statistics relative to revenue
shortfall under the proposed bill be included in the
correspondence to the legislative delegation.
Mr. Warren stated he had hoped the Board would adopt a
resolution relative to the Board's opposition to the proposed
legislation, but thinks the county's position has been stated
well in the comments and motion.
Mr. Warren then called for a vote on his motion, seconded by
Mr. Holland for the Board to oppose Senate Bill 768 and
encourage its partners, including the Chesterfield County
School Board, Virginia Association of Counties and the
Coalition of High Growth Communities, as well as other
counties throughout the state, to oppose the passage of the
draft legislation before the General Assembly.
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And, further, the Board directed the County Administrator to
inform the county's legislative delegation in writing
specifically of the Board's action, the Board's disagreement
with some of the underlying statistics that have been used by
the sponsor of the bill in order to suggest to people that
Chesterfield would benefit from this legislation, and to
include the county's statistics relative to revenue shortfall
under the proposed bill in the correspondence to the
legislative delegation.
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Ayes: Warren, Gecker, Jaeckle, Holland and Durfee.
Nays: None.
Mr. Warren called forward Ms. Curtin to summarize the
legislative proposals relative to the regional authority
board.
Ms. Curtin stated Senate Bill 767 uses the existing RMA as
the vehicle to create a regional transportation authority.
She further stated House Bill 1573 is modeled on the
transportation authorities created last year for Hampton
Roads and the existing one in Northern Virginia.
In response to Mr. Gecker's question, Ms. Curtin stated House
Bill 1573 has not been withdrawn.
Discussion ensued relative to the each of the bills' funding
sources for the authority.
In response to Mr. Holland's question, Ms. Curtin stated the
bills will have to be heard in committee prior to crossover
on February 12th, or they will die.
Mr. Holland expressed concerns relative to the General
Assembly's lack of process in solving transportation issues
long-term versus short-term fixes.
There was brief discussion
transportation authorities in
and Hampton Roads.
relative to the regional
existence in Northern Virginia
Mr. Warren stated approval of a regional transportation
authority would result in a different opportunity for local
governments to impose taxes for the purpose of meeting
transportation needs. He inquired why the General Assembly
is not addressing transportation needs instead of creating a
regional authority for local governments. to address the
needs, indicating that the county has $1 billion in
transportation needs.
Ms. Durfee stated choosing three out of the seven funding
sources included in the regional transportation authority
legislation would pose a problem for Chesterfield. She
further stated, in her opinion, this legislation mirrors the
impact fee legislation in that it is not yet ready to go
forward. She stated it would be advantageous for the
legislative delegation to meet with the Board to work out the
details of legislation that would significantly impact the
county.
Ms. Curtin stated the county always encourages early
discussion with the legislative delegation.
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Mr. Holland expressed concerns that there also appears to be
a lack of flexibility with both of the legislative proposals
relative to regional transportation authorities, indicating
the local governments should have flexibility when making
decisions.
Mr. Warren thanked the Board members for attending the
meeting on such a short notice. He suggested that the Board
partner with the legislative delegation prior to next year's
General Assembly in an effort to understand their intentions
and make the public aware.
2. ADJOURNMENT
On motion of Mr. Gecker, seconded by Ms. Durfee, the Board
adjourned at 4:37 p.m. until February 13, 2008 at 3:00 p.m.
Ayes: Warren, Gecker, Jaeckle, Holland and Durfee.
Nays: None.
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J mes J. Stegm ier Arthur S. Warren
ounty Administrator Chairman
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