07-30-1986 MinutesBO~RD OF SUPERVISORS
MINUTES
July 30, 1986
Supervisors in Attendance
Mr. R. Garland Dodd, Chairman
Mr. Barry G. Daniel, Vice Chairman
Mr. G. ~. Applegate
Mrs. Joan Girone
Mr. Jesse J. Mayes
Staff in Attendance:
Mr. Steve Micas, County
Attorney
Mr. Dodd called the meeting to order at Monaoan High School at
7:00 p.m. (EDST).
Mr. Dodd welcomed and expressed appreciation to those present
attending this public hearing to discuss the County Charter. He
stated this hearing was for the purpose of explaining the
proposed Charter and the effect.
1, INVOCATION
The Board took a moment of silencs to remember Governor John
Dalton who passed away this date.
Mr. Daniel gave the invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States
Amerioa was recited.
2. PUBLIC ]~4tRING TO ~.ECEIVE INPUT REC, ARDING ~RO~OSED
CHESTEP. FIELD COUNTY C~ARTER
Mr. Dodd ~tated this date and time had been scheduled for a
public hearing to receive citizen input regarding the proposed
Chesterfield County Charter.
Mr. Micas presented a slide presentation and overview of the
history of the establishment Of local government in Virginia. He
explained in brief detail the seven forms of government by which
the 95 counties in the Conunonwealth are governed and how the
proposed Charter would affect Chesterfield County, if adopted.
Mr. Dodd stated that there have been discussions on the County's
form of government for many years. ~e stated last year the Boar~
felt a Charter would be beneficial to the County but because the
issue was of such importance that the citizens should be involved
prior to the Board taking any official action such as the County
of Roanoke when they took the matter to the General Assembly. He
stated as a result of trying to obtain participation and
involvement~ a fifteen (15) member committee was selected to
draft a proposed Charter. Be stated the Charter Committee met
many times in their endeavor to devise a proposed Charter that
would serve to Organize the governmental structure of
Chesterfield County and, hopefully, benefit all its citizens. H~
commended the Committee members for their diligent efforts and
dedication in accomplishing the task assigned.
Mr. Dodd introduced Mr. John Reyall Robertson, Chairman of the
Charter Committee. Mr. Robertson introduced the members of the
Committee.
Mr. Harry Womack, representing the FOP, Lodge 47, which is made
up of businessmen and professionals in the County and are united
to promote the welfare, morale, social and economic benefits to
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the police officers and their families and to support their needs
and undertakings. He stated their organization strongly supports
the Police Department in its present i~rm of government. Ee
stated he felt the Police Department is one of the best and they
feel the operation should remain as is. Be referred to several
newspaper arficles regarding the Police Department in the City oi
Richmond whereby there is confusion a~ to who operates the Polic~
Department and they would not like to see that happen in
Chesterfield County.
Mr. John Cogbill stated he appreciated the effort and work by the
Committee and Board in bringing this proposal to the citizens and
he felt the product was worthy. Ee stated he ~elt the
appointment of the School Board members would be a good and a
welcomed change. Be stated the Committee on fhe Future of the
County is also a healthy and important change for the County as
it is a good idea to always receive input from others. He state~
he felt, however, that the number of five may be too small for
the membership of the Committee on the Future of the County and
suggested 10-15 would be more appropriate for the workload,
reports and charges that would be required. He stated he was
concerned with the amount of borrowing power vested in the Board
of Supervisors without a referendum. He stated in the past the
Board has acted responsibly, continues to act in the same manner
and has demonstrated good leadership for the County and he is
proud to be a part of this. Be stated, however, to take the
responsibility away from the people with regard to borrowing may
need to be looked at long and hard. Be stated, aS written, the
Board would be allowed to borrow up to $15,000,000 without
citizen approval and he felt referendums allow citizens to becom~
familiar with what is happening in the County and that is good.
He stated the assessment value of real estate in the County is
actually over $5 billion dollars and 5% of that wo~ld equate to
$252,000,000 which could be borrowed over a period of time
without coming back to the electorate. Be stated he did not feel
that would happen but be felt that power should rest with the
citizens.
Sgt. Jim Bourqne, Vice President of the Chesterfield Fraternal
Order of Police, Lodge 47, and member of their Charter Committee
which was formed to study the effect of the portion dealing with
the Police Department, wa~ present. Me briefly reviewed the
history of the staff of the Police Department, how the
appointment of the police chief had been shuffled, etc. Be
stated he felt the citizens of Chesterfield today are served by
one of the most efficient and modern police departments in the
country. He stated the police chief is currently appointed by
the Circuit Court and this assures continuity of the position and
isolates him from the political arena. He stated the chief is
only appointed upon recommendation of the Board of S~pervisers,
the Board sets policies, pay scales, sets the budget, etc. and
runs the department assuring accountability ho the citizens whenI
at the same time allowing the chief to keep the community safe
without fear of political reprisal. He stated he felt that
placing the chief under the control of the county administrator
would not be appropriate. He stated for the past 47 years this
system has worked well and requested that citizens question the
motives of those who seek this change. He stated that if there
has to be a chanqe that there at least be insulation from the
political arenas. He stated that after considerable discussion
of the matter if change is necessary, they recommend that the
chief of police be in direct command of this department, he must
have within his discretion (subject to the laws of the
CoK~onwealth and the County and the personnel policies of the
County and generally accepted practice) the ability to hire,
promote and fire when necessary all officers and employees in th(
department, he must be the policymaker for his department and
rules and regulations should be promulgated by him and his
administrative staff. He stated when it becomes necessary to
replace the chief of police they suggest that the Board of
Supervisor~ make fhat selection from candidates chosen by a thre~
member panel (a Board member, one citizen chosen by the Chief
Circuit Court Judge and one other appointed by the previous
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two appointees outlined who will be neither an elected nor
appointed local official). Be stated when appointed he shall
serve at the pleasure of the Board but shall be dismissed by the~
Board only for eause. Me stated if a dismissal shall occur, the~
chief of police should be afforded a hearing at the Circuit Cour~
level to determine solely the cause for dismissal. Me stated
this would ensure continuity and integrity of the position and a~
the sa~e time satisfy those who f~el that accountability is
lacking under the current system. He stated the overall general[
control of the department will remain with the Board of
Supervisors as to budget, pay scales, etc. He stated the FOP
feele the citizens deserve the best service and protection
available and are confident that it can continue under the
preeent system but at the same time trust that if change must
come that it not do so at the cost of efficient and effective la~
Mrs. Lois Cumashot inquired aho~t the wanner and procedure for
securing people who will be willing to serve as School Board
members, she would like a provision whereby the names of people
who are willing to eerve be published and that a public hearing
be held to receive input. She questioned the five-year
rather khan the four which she felt was sufficient and there may
be a problem in removing members if they are not representing the
County well.
Mr. Daniel informed those present that it was the Board's past
format to only receive input and not ~espond to questions, etc.
until after the last public hearing which will be held on August
11, 1986.
Mrs. Janet Alley stated the committee conmid~red a five member
School Board and appointed by the Board of Supervisors with only
two terms. She stated the five year term was opted for since
there were five districts and this would be done as each School
Board member's term expired. She stated they staggered the terms
so that there would be no great turnoveE at one time for
uniformity and oontinulty purposes. She stated they were trying
to attempt to keep the School Board Out of "politico" and by
having fixed and staggered terms would be an effective way to do
so. She stated that although the members would be appointed by
the Board of Supervisors, all five would vote On each appointee
and this would keep it out cf politics. She stated that 97% of
tbs school boards in the country are elected, the other 3% are
either chosen by a school board selection commission or by
governmental appointments. She stated that Virginia is unique as
we are the only state with a school board selection commission.
She stated she agreed with the public hearing and publishing
Ms. Lynn Cooper stated the proposals were well thought out and
she hoped the Board gives them strong consideration and
incorporates them into the proposed charter. She stated they
seemed progressive and she understood the rationale. She stated
that the intent of the change was always non-personal and always
in line with the system. She stated they tried to set up a
framework that would be constitutional all the way to the local
level. She stated they were considering the well-being and
non-politicalizing of the Police Department.
Mr. Bill Mohr stated with reference to the Board borrowing up to
$15,000,000, the ~% figure states that the total bond
indebtedness shall not exceed 5% of the assessed value of real
estate and currently the County borrowing ratio is 3%. Me state(
with plans for road construction, that would serve as a
constraint on the Board. Me stated the $15,000,000 figure
acknowledging that they wore not financial experts, could be
reduced or increased but it will first have to pass the scrutiny
of the Board of Supervisors, then the citizens, then the General
Assembly so there are opportunities to change the figure if
desired. Be stated that the County government is big business
and those running a household or small business, unforeseen needs
crop up and having ready access to necessary cash is an advantag(
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and efficient way o£ disposing of the problem. He stated he fel~
the provision was good but perhaps the figure needs modification.
Mrs. Elsie Elmore stated for years she has looked at County
budgets on behalf of the League of Women Voters. She stated
there have been concerns regarding the borrowing but there is no
municipal charter (until Roanoke) that does not allow the
governing body the right to vote without a referendum. She
stated that all realize that the people have a voice at the time
of a tax increase which must come to pay the exorbitant
indebtedness and that a good bond rating, on which the cost of
money is based, depends on a good ratio of indebtedness to
assessed value. She stated it is 3% at this time and they set
the rate of 5%. She stated most citiez have a 10% ratio and the
County has worked around 3% so as not to endanger its bond
rating. She stated that the rate of growth in revenue at the
County is currently 5%. She grated that all governing bodies
have the right and exercise the right to borrow money without
referendum such as lease/purchase or literary loans and there ars
others. She stated the record of the present governing body is
commendable.
Sgt. Bourque stated that the FOP is addressing this as a policy
matter and not as a personal vendetta. He stated as a
professional, fraternal and civic group it was felt to be an iss~
that needed to he addressed. He stated they looked at the issue
and nothing more and they appreciate the Board having the
foresight to work on this committee and look for modern
government in Chesterfield County. He stated the co~mittee's
intent is that the three member committee be a steering committee
and that they submit a binding recommendation for appointment.
Mrs. Girone indicated that there may be another alternative
whereby the Board would not have to appoint the recommended
candidate, but this was something that could be discussed '
further. She stated other than that, the other suggestions
seemed appropriate. Mr. Daniel stated that there is flexibility'
in appointing department heads at this time and he felt that
could continue and he felt the suggestions could be worked into
the philosophical concept. He commended Sgt. Bourgue and the FOP
for their positive comment~ regarding the proposed Charter. He
stated he felt the Police Department is one of the best and it
would be the Board's hope that it would continue to be the best
without governmental meddling except though policy. Sgt. Bourqu~
stated they wanted the new system to be as good as the old.
Mr. Coghill stated that one of the best indicators of a good
solid business is its long range planning and the committee has
indicated that long range planning is important. Be stated long
range planning means good fiscal planning and the Board of
Supervisors, through their planning and farsightedness, have bee]
able to meet the needs and demand~ of the County. He stated thi~
suggested another figure be discussed but he did not feel an
unrestrained figure is proper as is seen et the federal level.
Mr. Daniel stated the proposed charter specifically addresses
long range planning and for the County Administrator to present
this to the governing body.
Mr. Dodd stated that the bond rating since he has been on the
Board has improved two points and is now AA+ with our growth,
with borrowing money for roads, etc. He stated the Board does
try to manage its money well.
Mr. Dodd stated another p~blic hearing would be held on August
11, 1986 at 7:30 p.m. and a work session tentatively scheduled
for 10:00 a.m. on August 13, 1986 which is Open to the pstblic.
~e offered copies of the proposed charter to those present,
indicated there will probably be some amendments and expressed
appreciation for those in attendance.
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3. ADJOURNMENT
On motion of Mr. Mayes, ~econded by Mrs. Giron~, the Board
adjourned at 8:30 p.m. until 7:30 p.m. on August ll, 1986.
Rich~rB L. Hedrick
County Administrator
Chairman
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